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Oh Susanna's avatar

I'm at a loss as well and would love to understand how to overcome this problem. I'm seeing it lately in the controversy over COVID (not wanting to rehash that here). Most friends simply refuse to consider any information that doesn't come from mainstream media, insisting they're following "the science" while having no idea what the data actually is. I had a long conversation with a friend last night in which he said he'd believe it when data came out to support it, but totally ignored the data I sent him. What he actually meant was he'd believe it when mainstream media reports on it. It results in a vicious cycle: people don't believe you because they claim your sources aren't trustworthy, not realizing those sources exist precisely because there is a mainstream media blackout on anything that contradicts the narrative. It feels like shouting into the void, you can present facts and data all day long but they simply don't land. Whereas I'm happy to read the mainstream sources people send me. We really are living in parallel realities and it seems to be getting worse. I have no idea how to bridge the gap.

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1peter315's avatar

I believe that an honest and truthful conversation in today’s divisive environment takes more effort than most are willing to invest.

I’m a father who has 2 kids that received undergraduate degrees, one in California State, the other in University of California. They both graduated within the last 5 years. The level of progressive indoctrination was/is alarming. I use to have such a high regard for college education. My father graduated from University off Illinois. (I have only managed to complete some community college classes in math). I championed the idea for making sure my children go to college. I almost regret it. To have any conversation regarding social issues takes an effort similar to playing chess. That is, if they are even willing to engage in serious discussions with me. My default starting position is an uneducated, generation X, white, libertarian, cis-gendered male.

And that is where the problem lies. Only when we can put aside these labels and converse on what is actually said rather than what is stereotypically perceived, can a good conversation have a chance of happening, and it’s not always guaranteed.

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