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Shane Clancy's avatar

Three reasons I like the idea. Defense, Free trade and access to the U.S. constitution, particularly the first and second amendments. Concerned New Zealander.

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Rob's avatar

No. Figure 10 for Canada, Greenland, a few for Mexico. Maybe 67th state.

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A Stranger in a Strange Land's avatar

No …..too lefty like Australia

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Albert Cory's avatar

I've been there, three times. They're way too woke to be part of the US.

Plus, it's always raining in Auckland.

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Peter Boghossian's avatar

Auckland is fantastic! I loved it there! It would be a wonderful acquisition!

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Albert Cory's avatar

Wellington's better.

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Jim Walsh's avatar

Kiwi here. The Chinese Aircraft carrier fleet is entirely imaginary. China doesn't have the logistical capability to guarantee a successful amphibious invasion of Taiwan, let alone invade New Zealand. There is a military maxim, "It takes 10,000 people to land 1 combat-ready soldier on a beach, 10,000 miles away." Those 10,000 people need to know their job very well for that to happen too. If China had a blue water navy, then, yeah, that is a defense issue, but the reality is, the US isn't going to waste troops defending 5 million people at the arse-end of nowhere, especially a country who's only exports are primary produce.

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Peter Boghossian's avatar

And if they were sailing toward New Zealand? It’s also more of a hypothetical in terms of what it would take to change one’s mind.

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Jim Walsh's avatar

They literally don't possess that capacity at present. If they were sailing towards NZ, the US is NOT going to intervene. They haven't been keen on how we've asserted our sovereignty for the last 40 years. They aren't about to expend US lives protecting us. We have no military alliance with the US except for a shonky intel arrangement.

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Kevin's avatar

You underestimate the capability of the Communist Chinese. The distance between them and Taiwan is 81 miles.

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Jim Walsh's avatar

And the distance between their imagined capability and actual is as wide as the West's guesses at how effective Soviet forces were during the Cold War. The main reason the Chinese threat looms so large in people's minds in the Pacific at present is the same reason the Russians used to be so scary. People make money from selling weapons systems, from small arms to nuclear weapons.

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Paul White's avatar

Will they get their guns back?

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Peter Boghossian's avatar

They get our 2nd amendment, too. So yes.

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Jim Walsh's avatar

We didn't lose them. We simply, for the most part, don't need them.

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MacGuffin's avatar

Not even when a maniac like Jacinda sends the police round to force-vaccinate you? Not even then?

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Bookish Kiwi's avatar

Yeah. That never happened.

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Penny Adrian's avatar

NOOOO! I don’t want them!

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Peter Boghossian's avatar

It would never pass a fair vote.

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Robert Labossiere's avatar

No fucking way. Canada has dibs on 51.

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Peter Boghossian's avatar

lol

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Robert Labossiere's avatar

Update. I think Gaza just took the #52 spot.

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Lars-Olov Söderberg's avatar

This is soooo Auckland. There is still a much more common sensical part of the population outside the urban areas. For sure proud and patriotic but less woke and more down to earth. That’s the part of the population that eventually saw through Jacinda and her likes and kicked them out of government. They are the nation’s backbone. The rest wouldn’t have a clue what happened when the Chinese arrived

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Devil Stix Dave's avatar

This video was fun!

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Kevin's avatar

Rather than adding socialist states, let get rid of all our territories like the miserable little corrupt Island Puerto Rico. Send all the non-citizens Puerto Ricans back to the little cesspool of a nation. Then kick the ugly raging communist tramp in congress out as well. Then invade the Panama Canal and reclaim it as sovereign US territory. Kick the communist Chinese out of our hemisphere. If the leaders resist, shoot them.

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Peter Boghossian's avatar

Next time someone says I’m a radical, I’ll tell them to talk to you.

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John Raisor's avatar

"Yeah! More groups to hate!" -America

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James Scott McSheffrey's avatar

Nooooooo! Leave them alone. I want to move there and away from the US.

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Peter Boghossian's avatar

But then you could stay there permanently!

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James Scott McSheffrey's avatar

That’s a great comment because it could mean so many things. Ha

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