It does not matter whether Donald Trump is a "victim." Women who believe in biological reality have been hounded by the Left. Parents who didn't know a "bisexual, non-binary, masc, they-them" teacher was recruiting their child into body dissociation at school are the victims, along with those children. Girls who are trafficked through our southern border are the victims. Lost souls who die of fentanyl overdose from drugs brought here are the victims. I see Trump as click bait. Talk about the people, Peter.
You’re inverting everything. You’re attempting to participate in a dialectical ideology without acknowledging that subjectivity affects everyone. To even suggest that a non binary person would attempt to indoctrinate a child is ludicrous!
For people outside of this forum, your sarcasm might be taken for actual belief. For example, a PhD psychologist in the UK, 53 years old male, working at the Tavistock, the "gender" clinic soon to be replaced, was just caught grooming a 15 year old. He took the child he'd made contact with on Grindr to a popular Indian restaurant for a meal, then negotiated a deal to head over to a park where some handy bushes are a handy spot for al fresco sex. But it was actually arranged by undercover adults and he was arrested. Never happens, no! PhD psychologists involved in telling children to go on puberty blockers and hormones, building up to the holy grail of cutting off your manhood via the handy skills of a surgeon while at the same time luring teen boys to a park for sex is just ludicrous! Never happens!
Whatever. You’re a bigot pointing out the very reality that none want to address and what’s worse, you have the arrogance to pretend that YOU ARE HELPING the degraded people you’re talking about! As a CHILD SA & INCEST SURVIVOR - HOMOSEXUALS who KNOW WHOM AND WHAT THEY ARE NEVER HARMED ME. You have NO INTEREST IN HELPING SURVIVORS. That much is obvious.
Huh? I collect data on women who divorced suddenly crossdressing husbands, who demanded to be recognized as lesbians. Many of us have been sexually and physically assaulted by him before the escape. We've been defamed and left to raise children alone in impoverished circumstances. I object to young children being taught this doctrine/religion in schools. I don't think you understood what I wrote. Please work to heal, I found movement and time out in nature very helpful.
Hey - I apologize for having a knee jerk reply. I was at work and it’s a touchy subject. Since you get into “data sets” please do review the database I posted a link to. It’s not that it “NEVER” happens - it’s that it’s so RARE as to be ALMOST STATISTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT. These are the numbers for ONE YEAR of sex crimes involving children in America. You’re across the pond. And as a grandchild of a British War Bride (WWII) I don’t pander to the UK in a cultural sense. Everyone on both sides of the pond idolize or idealize, each other and with that said and noted I’m going to walk away from this conversation with a refrain from Jimmy Buffets song “Banana Republics” because it’s not worth any argument. “First you learn the native customs, soon a word of Spanish or two. You know that you cannot Trust them, cause They Know They Can’t TRUST You….”
"We examine the potential consequences of the media's relentless portrayal of Trump as akin to Hitler. Is there a risk that such extreme comparisons could incite real-world violence or further division? "
This is not even questionable. We need only look at history to see it in action. EVERY single attempt to garner support for war or some foreign conflict has always been proceeded (in the US) with the medias promoting support for said engagement by demonizing the other side. Even when it's not an us vs them situation like with Israel and Palestine, the western media doesn't report on things but crafts narratives designed to garner support. In this case it's to garner support for the idea that anything is acceptable for preventing Trump from being president .....again. Despite already having been president somehow this time it will be very different or so they do their best convince us of.
The key here, of course, is the participants' reasoning.
K=JTB, to claim you know something you need sufficient justification to warrant your confidence. Often, people claim to know things and do not have sufficient justification, even though what they claim to know is true. Thus, at least on Plato's conception, they do not *know*.
Didn't at one time modern society "KNOW" that the Earth was flat?
Didn't at one time modern society "KNOW" that the Earth was the center of the universe?
Didn't at one time modern society "KNOW" that evolution is the only possible explanation?
KNOW is such a mailable term. Within the Christian faith, this what sets us a part form teh rest. We KNOW via faith and not via scientific evidence.
Let me ask you this. What is truly a more likely explanation?
1) Evolution in a relatively short time just happened to get enough things right that intelligent life was produced
2) A higher life form created human kind for whatever reason?
I know why it;s important for the academic to believe in evolution but doing so requires as much "faith? as the religion of Christianity does with the main difference being that Christians say there belief comes from FAITH and not scientific evidence.
I do not immerse myself into the media narrative because I find it exhausting and unnecessary. However, I agree that the left tries to portray Trump as evil. That is bad because the media should try to show facts and not just try to paint a picture to manipulate the public. They even lie about him when there are enough truths about him to show. What about the right though? Aren’t they also always trying to portray Kamala as an evil communist? I would argue that both sides could entice a crazy stupid person to go out and try to kill the other candidate. According to the media on the right, Kamala is going to end freedom of speech and with that democracy. Is that not as bad? I mean, some crazy individual could also be convinced that she needs to be eliminated because of that. Also, Trump himself does a constantly good job making enemies and hating people, so how to know for sure who is more irresponsible? I think you are probably being biased by your frustration with the left and Wokeism. I know I do not know what to make of this mess of an election. It is an embarrassment!
Problem is, there isn’t much right leaning main stream media apart from Fox, so when it comes to spreading lies and exaggerations the left definitely has the advantage
" What about the right though? Aren’t they also always trying to portray Kamala as an evil communist?"
If you mean are they pointing out what she and Biden have done during their administration and what they are likely to do based on that then yes but that's not teh same as using rhetoric to convince people that someone is so dangerous they must be taken out. You're comparing Apples to Batteries.
What the left says about Trump is straight up lies. What the Right says about Harris is an account of what she's done and from that likely to do as well as what she's promised to do. She's also promised price fixing and that is absolutely something a pro-collectivist would do. The Right doesn't need to make up anything.
“You're comparing Apples to Batteries.” I disagree, I have seen Trump talk and promote himself. I have seen him talk about Putin and other tyrants. I can also imagine his presidency might be even more dangerous to America than the last one based on him just talking about how he won the last election for example, or the many people in his administration who won’t vote for him anymore. As I said in my comment the left may be using lies about Trump, but there’s no need for that, he himself is clearly who he is. Many reasonable people think Trump is worse than Kamala, I don’t think the right choice is as clear as you seem to think.
There are not "Meany reasonable people who think Trump is worse than Kamala" there are however many well indoctrinated NPC"s with Stage3+ Trump Derangement Syndrome. The man has already been in office once and NOT Been a Hitler type but we're supposed to believe that as soon as he wins again he will automatically become the anti-Christ?
Freedom of speech and freedom of the press are important concepts that should be maintained, but with that you expect a certain amount of due diligence from these organizations to put out stories that, at least as far as they can determine, are true and unbiased. I don’t think the media can claim that in this case, they have deliberately used hyperbole and blatant false claims to generate fear and hatred towards Trump. They are definitely complicit in the two attempts so far, would you call it terrorism? Maybe they have effectively waged a war to keep the public terrorized by Trump.
Walking this line is often not easy, esp. in perilous times (and I'd argue that this is one of those times.) Also, we're faced with a media landscape when it's VERY difficult to figure out what people actually believe. Example: The doctored 60 Minutes interview with Harris.
Peter - Idea for a Street Epistemology episode, has the US based News Media ever done the job of the 4th estate or has it always been capture/coopted to some degree and it's only recently because of Trump that the media has self-exposed itself to the public?
But WHY is this? Have our students of "Higher learning": been so dumbed down enough now that the 4th estate is to large an idea for them to contemplate?
I have to say, it;s time like this that I wish you or Brett (Weinstein) or E4ic (Weinstein) were a neighbor of mine. I love/like our neighbors in TX but I REALLY wish at times one was one of teh more intellectually connected types like yourself and Eric and BRETT.
I imagine that you, Eric, Brett and the rest get frustrated at times b/c of your your popularity and whish people would treat you like anyone else. In my line of work I've come across several known names and I do my best to treat them no differently then anyone else. Fame is not just a platform to enrich one's self but at the same time is a kind if enslavement.
Trump forced them to self-expose all their assets in an effort to stop him. This makes me wonder what it is that is soo concerning that they'd risk that level of self-exposure after so many generations of careful and covert operations? The fact is they really should have been better off simply letting him get his 1-2 terms and move on but they couldn't do that. My guess is that he was getting close to something they don't want exposed and the ONLY reason they were able to keep it away form him in his 1st term was b/c Trump was foolish enough to trust the wrong people, those who are establishment owned shills posing as real Republicans.
Q: What is the 1 thing that even the most wealthy people on teh planet can't buy their way out of being accountable for?
A: Pedophilia and or child sex trafficking. Yes they can engage it now with their wealth and power but if exposed publicly this is the kind of thing that no amount of money can buy someone out of. I bet most if not all of them are tied to Epstein and worse and that's why they are wiling to self-expose and go scorched earth to prevent from being exposed. If it is as widespread as I fear I could easily see these people choosing to start a global thermonuclear war to prevent.
"Trump forced them to self-expose all their assets in an effort to stop him. This makes me wonder what it is that is soo concerning that they'd risk that level of self-exposure after so many generations of careful and covert operations?....."
": Pedophilia and or child sex trafficking......I fear I could easily see these people choosing to start a global thermonuclear war to prevent."
It APPEARS (And I Could Be Wrong) based on these replies, you could (if Followed) to beautiful downtown Nutter Ville.
Its not a Conspiracy, so much as its a mindset, a political/cultural world view. One of the reasons it has gotten so (for lack of a better term) *Out Of Hand is Donald Trump's public persona, (See Andrew Jackson). That and he defeated Hillary Clinton. Remember In Their Opinion she was The Greatest Thing Since Sliced Bread. They (Corporate Media) have never forgiven him for that. That and He Was One Of Them, part of The Elite.
As for Vast Elite Pedophile/Sex Rings...No. Actually Oh Hell No. Remember beautiful downtown Nutter Ville? Stating a global thermonuclear war That's The stuff of Techo-Thrillers and Hollywood movies.
The thing to keep in mind is These Elites, are no where near as bright as a. They Think They Are, b You (Appear) to give them credit for.
The Larger a Conspiracy is the Harder it is to Pull Off.
Never forget the power of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Whether it is an irrational fear that Donald Trump will start Global Thermonuclear War or because he will deny women teh right the legally murder the lives of unborn children's the fact is the Left needs your paranoia so join in the madness today and let yourself go free of all responsibility
Honestly, given that DJT is the subject, I’m unable to read past your first paragraph’s statement that a comparison with Hitler is “extreme.” It’s NOT AN EXTREME COMPARISON. It’s an Apt One. Therefore, the rest of this article will remain Unread by me and I will not be upgrading to a paid subscription. Your approach to the topic contains too “unserious” a statement for my current tastes. Meanwhile, I enjoy much of your other content. I’m not leaving this comment to be prickly. I’m leaving it as honest feedback.
Peter, I agree with you on many things. However. If you are going to carry water for Trump. Who is nuts and a danger. I am unsubscribing. Beyond the pale.
How is Trump more dangerous than Kamala or Biden, I would actually argue that Kamala is more dangerous. The problem with a Kamala presidency is that you know she will be directed in all her actions by certain unelected personages behind the scenes. The US has shown weakness and poor leadership over the last few years and it needs a strong leadership more than ever. I believe the joining together of RFK, Tulsi Gabard, JD Vance and Elon Musk with Trump makes a very strong team.
I'm not a free speech lawyer, but it occurs to me that the red line between free speech and violence should be the legal definition of 'incitement,' ie: phrases like 'kill Trump' are clearly incitement. Others are a grey area, like 'I wish he was dead.' etc. I would say go with court precedent, like, you know......Jan. 6.
Legally Responsible No. Culturally Responsible? That's a Different Question.
Let me also say This Kid is pretty Darn Sharp!
It does not matter whether Donald Trump is a "victim." Women who believe in biological reality have been hounded by the Left. Parents who didn't know a "bisexual, non-binary, masc, they-them" teacher was recruiting their child into body dissociation at school are the victims, along with those children. Girls who are trafficked through our southern border are the victims. Lost souls who die of fentanyl overdose from drugs brought here are the victims. I see Trump as click bait. Talk about the people, Peter.
https://www.whoismakingnews.com/
You’re inverting everything. You’re attempting to participate in a dialectical ideology without acknowledging that subjectivity affects everyone. To even suggest that a non binary person would attempt to indoctrinate a child is ludicrous!
For people outside of this forum, your sarcasm might be taken for actual belief. For example, a PhD psychologist in the UK, 53 years old male, working at the Tavistock, the "gender" clinic soon to be replaced, was just caught grooming a 15 year old. He took the child he'd made contact with on Grindr to a popular Indian restaurant for a meal, then negotiated a deal to head over to a park where some handy bushes are a handy spot for al fresco sex. But it was actually arranged by undercover adults and he was arrested. Never happens, no! PhD psychologists involved in telling children to go on puberty blockers and hormones, building up to the holy grail of cutting off your manhood via the handy skills of a surgeon while at the same time luring teen boys to a park for sex is just ludicrous! Never happens!
Whatever. You’re a bigot pointing out the very reality that none want to address and what’s worse, you have the arrogance to pretend that YOU ARE HELPING the degraded people you’re talking about! As a CHILD SA & INCEST SURVIVOR - HOMOSEXUALS who KNOW WHOM AND WHAT THEY ARE NEVER HARMED ME. You have NO INTEREST IN HELPING SURVIVORS. That much is obvious.
Huh? I collect data on women who divorced suddenly crossdressing husbands, who demanded to be recognized as lesbians. Many of us have been sexually and physically assaulted by him before the escape. We've been defamed and left to raise children alone in impoverished circumstances. I object to young children being taught this doctrine/religion in schools. I don't think you understood what I wrote. Please work to heal, I found movement and time out in nature very helpful.
Hey - I apologize for having a knee jerk reply. I was at work and it’s a touchy subject. Since you get into “data sets” please do review the database I posted a link to. It’s not that it “NEVER” happens - it’s that it’s so RARE as to be ALMOST STATISTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT. These are the numbers for ONE YEAR of sex crimes involving children in America. You’re across the pond. And as a grandchild of a British War Bride (WWII) I don’t pander to the UK in a cultural sense. Everyone on both sides of the pond idolize or idealize, each other and with that said and noted I’m going to walk away from this conversation with a refrain from Jimmy Buffets song “Banana Republics” because it’s not worth any argument. “First you learn the native customs, soon a word of Spanish or two. You know that you cannot Trust them, cause They Know They Can’t TRUST You….”
Honey, I'm really sorry, because when I said "never happens" I was sarcastic. These child sexual molesters target vulnerable kids. Be well.
"We examine the potential consequences of the media's relentless portrayal of Trump as akin to Hitler. Is there a risk that such extreme comparisons could incite real-world violence or further division? "
This is not even questionable. We need only look at history to see it in action. EVERY single attempt to garner support for war or some foreign conflict has always been proceeded (in the US) with the medias promoting support for said engagement by demonizing the other side. Even when it's not an us vs them situation like with Israel and Palestine, the western media doesn't report on things but crafts narratives designed to garner support. In this case it's to garner support for the idea that anything is acceptable for preventing Trump from being president .....again. Despite already having been president somehow this time it will be very different or so they do their best convince us of.
The key here, of course, is the participants' reasoning.
K=JTB, to claim you know something you need sufficient justification to warrant your confidence. Often, people claim to know things and do not have sufficient justification, even though what they claim to know is true. Thus, at least on Plato's conception, they do not *know*.
What is "Knowing"?
Didn't at one time modern society "KNOW" that the Earth was flat?
Didn't at one time modern society "KNOW" that the Earth was the center of the universe?
Didn't at one time modern society "KNOW" that evolution is the only possible explanation?
KNOW is such a mailable term. Within the Christian faith, this what sets us a part form teh rest. We KNOW via faith and not via scientific evidence.
Let me ask you this. What is truly a more likely explanation?
1) Evolution in a relatively short time just happened to get enough things right that intelligent life was produced
2) A higher life form created human kind for whatever reason?
I know why it;s important for the academic to believe in evolution but doing so requires as much "faith? as the religion of Christianity does with the main difference being that Christians say there belief comes from FAITH and not scientific evidence.
I do not immerse myself into the media narrative because I find it exhausting and unnecessary. However, I agree that the left tries to portray Trump as evil. That is bad because the media should try to show facts and not just try to paint a picture to manipulate the public. They even lie about him when there are enough truths about him to show. What about the right though? Aren’t they also always trying to portray Kamala as an evil communist? I would argue that both sides could entice a crazy stupid person to go out and try to kill the other candidate. According to the media on the right, Kamala is going to end freedom of speech and with that democracy. Is that not as bad? I mean, some crazy individual could also be convinced that she needs to be eliminated because of that. Also, Trump himself does a constantly good job making enemies and hating people, so how to know for sure who is more irresponsible? I think you are probably being biased by your frustration with the left and Wokeism. I know I do not know what to make of this mess of an election. It is an embarrassment!
Problem is, there isn’t much right leaning main stream media apart from Fox, so when it comes to spreading lies and exaggerations the left definitely has the advantage
OK. I suppose that is true. Although you also have places like Twitter where Trumpists spread lies with abandon.
As do Kamalaists
" What about the right though? Aren’t they also always trying to portray Kamala as an evil communist?"
If you mean are they pointing out what she and Biden have done during their administration and what they are likely to do based on that then yes but that's not teh same as using rhetoric to convince people that someone is so dangerous they must be taken out. You're comparing Apples to Batteries.
What the left says about Trump is straight up lies. What the Right says about Harris is an account of what she's done and from that likely to do as well as what she's promised to do. She's also promised price fixing and that is absolutely something a pro-collectivist would do. The Right doesn't need to make up anything.
“You're comparing Apples to Batteries.” I disagree, I have seen Trump talk and promote himself. I have seen him talk about Putin and other tyrants. I can also imagine his presidency might be even more dangerous to America than the last one based on him just talking about how he won the last election for example, or the many people in his administration who won’t vote for him anymore. As I said in my comment the left may be using lies about Trump, but there’s no need for that, he himself is clearly who he is. Many reasonable people think Trump is worse than Kamala, I don’t think the right choice is as clear as you seem to think.
There are not "Meany reasonable people who think Trump is worse than Kamala" there are however many well indoctrinated NPC"s with Stage3+ Trump Derangement Syndrome. The man has already been in office once and NOT Been a Hitler type but we're supposed to believe that as soon as he wins again he will automatically become the anti-Christ?
#TryAgain
No. I won’t try again. If you want to see things like this, go ahead, don’t let my comments bother you. Have a good day.
Freedom of speech and freedom of the press are important concepts that should be maintained, but with that you expect a certain amount of due diligence from these organizations to put out stories that, at least as far as they can determine, are true and unbiased. I don’t think the media can claim that in this case, they have deliberately used hyperbole and blatant false claims to generate fear and hatred towards Trump. They are definitely complicit in the two attempts so far, would you call it terrorism? Maybe they have effectively waged a war to keep the public terrorized by Trump.
Walking this line is often not easy, esp. in perilous times (and I'd argue that this is one of those times.) Also, we're faced with a media landscape when it's VERY difficult to figure out what people actually believe. Example: The doctored 60 Minutes interview with Harris.
If he's a victim of stochastic terrorism, then so was Nancy Pelosi's husband.
We could absolutely make that a claim.
Peter - Idea for a Street Epistemology episode, has the US based News Media ever done the job of the 4th estate or has it always been capture/coopted to some degree and it's only recently because of Trump that the media has self-exposed itself to the public?
Doable! However, "4th estate" is too complicated. It needs to be simplified.
But WHY is this? Have our students of "Higher learning": been so dumbed down enough now that the 4th estate is to large an idea for them to contemplate?
I have to say, it;s time like this that I wish you or Brett (Weinstein) or E4ic (Weinstein) were a neighbor of mine. I love/like our neighbors in TX but I REALLY wish at times one was one of teh more intellectually connected types like yourself and Eric and BRETT.
I imagine that you, Eric, Brett and the rest get frustrated at times b/c of your your popularity and whish people would treat you like anyone else. In my line of work I've come across several known names and I do my best to treat them no differently then anyone else. Fame is not just a platform to enrich one's self but at the same time is a kind if enslavement.
Donald Trump stripped the mask off.
Trump forced them to self-expose all their assets in an effort to stop him. This makes me wonder what it is that is soo concerning that they'd risk that level of self-exposure after so many generations of careful and covert operations? The fact is they really should have been better off simply letting him get his 1-2 terms and move on but they couldn't do that. My guess is that he was getting close to something they don't want exposed and the ONLY reason they were able to keep it away form him in his 1st term was b/c Trump was foolish enough to trust the wrong people, those who are establishment owned shills posing as real Republicans.
Q: What is the 1 thing that even the most wealthy people on teh planet can't buy their way out of being accountable for?
A: Pedophilia and or child sex trafficking. Yes they can engage it now with their wealth and power but if exposed publicly this is the kind of thing that no amount of money can buy someone out of. I bet most if not all of them are tied to Epstein and worse and that's why they are wiling to self-expose and go scorched earth to prevent from being exposed. If it is as widespread as I fear I could easily see these people choosing to start a global thermonuclear war to prevent.
"Trump forced them to self-expose all their assets in an effort to stop him. This makes me wonder what it is that is soo concerning that they'd risk that level of self-exposure after so many generations of careful and covert operations?....."
": Pedophilia and or child sex trafficking......I fear I could easily see these people choosing to start a global thermonuclear war to prevent."
It APPEARS (And I Could Be Wrong) based on these replies, you could (if Followed) to beautiful downtown Nutter Ville.
Its not a Conspiracy, so much as its a mindset, a political/cultural world view. One of the reasons it has gotten so (for lack of a better term) *Out Of Hand is Donald Trump's public persona, (See Andrew Jackson). That and he defeated Hillary Clinton. Remember In Their Opinion she was The Greatest Thing Since Sliced Bread. They (Corporate Media) have never forgiven him for that. That and He Was One Of Them, part of The Elite.
As for Vast Elite Pedophile/Sex Rings...No. Actually Oh Hell No. Remember beautiful downtown Nutter Ville? Stating a global thermonuclear war That's The stuff of Techo-Thrillers and Hollywood movies.
The thing to keep in mind is These Elites, are no where near as bright as a. They Think They Are, b You (Appear) to give them credit for.
The Larger a Conspiracy is the Harder it is to Pull Off.
*90+% of the coverage of Trump is negative
Never forget the power of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Whether it is an irrational fear that Donald Trump will start Global Thermonuclear War or because he will deny women teh right the legally murder the lives of unborn children's the fact is the Left needs your paranoia so join in the madness today and let yourself go free of all responsibility
Honestly, given that DJT is the subject, I’m unable to read past your first paragraph’s statement that a comparison with Hitler is “extreme.” It’s NOT AN EXTREME COMPARISON. It’s an Apt One. Therefore, the rest of this article will remain Unread by me and I will not be upgrading to a paid subscription. Your approach to the topic contains too “unserious” a statement for my current tastes. Meanwhile, I enjoy much of your other content. I’m not leaving this comment to be prickly. I’m leaving it as honest feedback.
Fascinating discussion. It's never as simple as people like to claim.
thanks and correct
It truly is time to Abolish all references to the MSM and only support Alternative Donor supported Media
NO! Because I want/need to know What The Opposition Says, and Why they say it.
Peter, I agree with you on many things. However. If you are going to carry water for Trump. Who is nuts and a danger. I am unsubscribing. Beyond the pale.
How is Trump more dangerous than Kamala or Biden, I would actually argue that Kamala is more dangerous. The problem with a Kamala presidency is that you know she will be directed in all her actions by certain unelected personages behind the scenes. The US has shown weakness and poor leadership over the last few years and it needs a strong leadership more than ever. I believe the joining together of RFK, Tulsi Gabard, JD Vance and Elon Musk with Trump makes a very strong team.
Well as long as you haven't made up you mind.
BTW Some of us are waiting for you to answer Terry Greathead's question. Please cite sources.
I'm not a free speech lawyer, but it occurs to me that the red line between free speech and violence should be the legal definition of 'incitement,' ie: phrases like 'kill Trump' are clearly incitement. Others are a grey area, like 'I wish he was dead.' etc. I would say go with court precedent, like, you know......Jan. 6.