As a convert to Judaism and an NYC public school teacher, yups. Lots of anti-Semitism. In a strange turn of events, a Jewish friend of mine told me a story of getting her daughter out of a lease to an illegal basement apartment in Ridgewood, Queens, where the (very non-Jewish) landlord threatened a court case, based on his darker skin color. You can't make this up. Really.
I no more care for nor like/support what is being done towards Jews today by the pro-Palestinian movement any more than I do for what wealthy/influential Jews in America and in Israel have been doing for decades to America and it's citizens. In case you don't know what I mean a perfect example is AIPAC. I can only speak to how AIPAC operates within the Republican party but I imagine they do the same for some Democrats. AIPAC is a Jewish Lobbying group consisting of American based Jews who are for all intents and purpose influencing our Congressmen & women to do what Israel wants regardless of how it impacts America or it's citizenry. YES I know they are not the only LOBBYISTS with bad intentions towards US Governance but that doesn't make them any less bad then the other lobbyists groups.
I'm all for Israel being an ally and treating them as such but we do more than just that for Israel. On day one after being sworn in 1 (or more ) AIPAC people "assigned" to you by the heads at AIPAC, appear to let you know how you should act on things that impact Israel directly or indirectly. I'd call that very arrogant. For those who want to defend AIPAC, ask yourself this; if there was a lobbying group in Israel consisting of Israel based American citizens telling Israeli elected persons within the government how to govern based on what benefits America regardless of the costs to Israel would you defend that? And yes I know America interferes this way in other nations but 2 wrongs don't make a right. I have criticism for our own corrupt US Federal government for BOTH parties. The neocons who have used the excuse of spreading Democracy to effectively rape other nations are just as vile and disgusting as the Democrats supporting Muslim terrorists groups.
Last I checked, when the Jewish people were facing genocide it was America along with other nations that sent in and sacrificed it's sons to stop said genocide and yet how is America treated today? Like as if we owe Israel something. America owes no more or less to Israel then any other primary ally like Britain and yet we send unbelievable record amounts of money we don't have to Israel and we do it annually thanks in part to AIPAC. If you say something like this Jewish influencers like Ben Shapiro will quickly tell you Israel doesn't need America to fight it's wars and immediately after go to criticizing any attempts to argue that we pay Israel less money then we have been; pay them the same amount we do with other allies. We have veterans who can't get proper healthcare yet we have to continually borrow money to give to Israel? Yes I know that is NOT the only waste our Federal government engages in but it doesn't change the fact of what it is. Yes they are a valued ally but that doesn't excuse treating them like as if they are the Royalty that America serves.
Because the American mind is short lasting I have to clarify that this is about America and Israel over the last 40+ years and NOT as of the last 4 years. The current Democrat administrations treatment of Israel and Jews in America after October 7th while repugnant is not representative of the relationship between the 2 nations since Israel's inception.
I say "Wealthy & Influential" Jews because it's not the average every day Jewish person (i.e. the majority of the Jewish people ) trying to manipulate the American government; it's the wealthy and influential few that do this. They are the Jewish version of the Globalist Elite who are trying to impose their will on all the world. They hide themselves amongst all Jews so as to shield themselves from criticism. Say anything about what they do or expect from America and BAM your an anti-Semite.
Criticism of Jews and or the nation of Israel raises another good point; anti-Semitism. Why is it that when any other ethnic group on Earth is attacked because of their ethnicity it's racism but that word is not good enough when it's done to Jews? For Jews that requires a special term that sets hatred of them different, above perhaps, of all other groups. I read once where a regular every day Jewish survivor of the holocaust said that the phrase "anti-Semitism" was created specifically to emotionally manipulate the west; if so it has worked wonderfully so far. Until very recent all feared being labeled an anti-Semite. I can just about guarantee someone will call me an anti-Semite for being critical of Israel's/Jews attempt to influence American governance.
When Israel was attack by those evil terrorist on October 7th the reaction from the west should have been more pro-Israel. Part of the failure to do so comes from mass indoctrination of of Millennials and GenZ in America by the pro-collectivist governance, pro-Muslim, persons within our public education system but some of this comes from multiple generations who are simply sick and tired of being treated like as if we owe Israel more than any other ally and or that any critique of anyone Jewish gets one labeled as anti-semitic. It's a shaming language technique. The problem is that just as feminist have over used the term sexism, the term anti-Semite has been so over used it's lost it's sting.
I feel for and pray for the majority of Jews who are are also victims of their own elite class but I have no empathy nor care for those Jews with money, power and influence that use it like a weapon and try to get America to be it's servant.
I just want to say in advance a warm heart thank you for those who DARE risking liking this. As you know it is the wealthy few who manipulate the system including the wealthy & Influential Jews that hide themselves amongst the rest of the Jewish populace for protection. Allies' like @Steve here are dumbfounded as what to do because their "anti-0semite' rebuttal was called out before they had chance to whispered a word.
The real Jewish people recognize what the few have used them for.
I'm not a holocaust denier or Jew hater (aka anti-semite) but, l am an anti-zionist and object to a political regime that hides behind theology while pretending to be democracy with equal rights for everyone.
I'm not too keen on genocide and l don't like being lied to (gas-lit) either. Unfortunately, the USA applaud liars and will give 58 standing ovations to a sociopath.
I can't wait to see which loony-toon is elected as POTUS this November but, l'm guessing it will be the leader of the party with the most "donations" from AIPAC.
🤨So you believe that the Jews are not entitled to a tiny country smaller than New Jersey. Muslims have OVER 40 COUNTRIES! There is NO genocide happening. Words have definitions and if that’s a “genocide” than it’s the only one in which the population of the “victims” QUINTUPLED. You may be the sociopath here. There are a vast amount of Arab/Palestinian Israeli CITIZENS will full rights. They’re on the SUPREME COURT. Can you name a single Muslim country with a single Jewish person on their supreme court? Of course you can’t, because there aren’t any. You should be ashamed of yourself. Stop lying to yourself. You hate the Jews. The double standards are DEAFENING.🤦♂️
Nowhere in Shelley's post was there anything said about Jews not being allowed their own nation or hating them. You sound like an Israel apologist, someone who believes the nation (not the individual people) is somehow incapable of anything but acting like an angel. The government of Israel is no more a direct representation of every Jew there and globally as the American government is of every American. Most criticism are at the government of Israel not it's citizens but it's far easier to shut down any argument or criticism of Israel by making it about.... say it with me......"hating Jews"
“ I'm not a holocaust denier or Jew hater (aka anti-semite)” AKA lI’m not racist, but…” Starting one’s argument with that qualifier says it all.
The literal definition of “Anti-Zionist” is someone who doesn’t think that the Jews should have a country and that Israel should not exist. Zionism is just the belief in a Jewish homeland and that would be Israel.
Sorry, believe what you will, the result is the same. Whatever helps you sleep at night. Don’t be a Hamastitute.
The school board agenda was to debate the removal of AP classes due to the Equity part of the DEI ideologog. Then the meeting devoled into a debate about Anti-Semitism and Miss Montgomery's attempt at teaching about the conflict in the Middle East.
Let me start with the doctor mom complaining that her child was not being taught about the Holocaust in an American school then later saying her and children are citizens of Israel (just because they follow Judaism). Pick a passport lady.
The "documentary" followed the school board and parents down the rabbit hole, and Peter interviews the films Producer and goes further down the rabbit hole. How fkn ridiculous!
I'll close with a challenge for Peter. Is calling someone an Anti-Semite, better, the same or worse than being called a racist?
MOVE.
PS You don't need to be a specific skin colour to be Jewish but you do need to be white to be an Israeli citizen Just ask the Ethiopeans and Morrocans that are denied Israeli citizenship.
I've confidentially advised on two such cases now, and just when you think things are at peak insanity, something else even more insane comes along. I strongly prefer the term "Jew-hater" to "antisemitic". Many people who hate Jews claim they can't be antisemitic because they are semitic.
What irks me is how "racism" is a sufficient term for all ethnics groups but one. Why is someone who hates blacks a racist and someone how hates whites a racist but someone who hates Jews isn't simply a racists but an "anti-semite"? As for genocide the Jews aren't the only peoples in history to face that so I can see no reason for why one ethnic group needs it's own special terms unless there's a purpose behind that. Question anything about the holocaust and you're not questioning something your a "denier". Where else do we see that kind of term used? It's a word being used as a psychological weapon , a form of shaming.
I also don't like the conflation of Jews as people and Israel as a national government. NO National government is %100 representative of it's people; it doesn't work that way. There have ben debates internally (in Israel) about some of teh methods being used on prisoners of war b/c some feel it's justified while other's don't but you let someone outside of Israel question what's being done and they are an "anti-semite".
The final straw for me was States trying to ban criticism of Israel. If a state government can say you can't bid for state contracts if you criticize Israel. This is a serious violation of the right to free speech as the state is acting on behalf of the people and this should not be using any speech as a means by which to be inclusive or exclusive of any groups. EVERYONE including Jews should be very concerned about any level of government in teh US trying to set conditions about what it does based on anyone speech. Take that approach and say in 10 years or so an increase in the local Muslim population allows those people full control how would you like it if they said any criticism of Islam/Muslims is an automatic dismissal of being able to do any work with the government?
People are not pondering the long term consequences of what they support for they don't see how one day their side may not be in power/control.
Your last sentence is complete bullshit. Lies. Are the Mizrahi Israelis “White”? They’re actually the majority of the Israeli legal citizen population.
I know you deserve a fuller response however, this November it really doesn't matter who you vote for to be POTUS because Netenyahu (or his successor) will be running your country and forcing you into war with Iran.
BTW where is Jamie Raskin lately? As a Jewish Demoncrat you'd think he'd have something to say.
As a convert to Judaism and an NYC public school teacher, yups. Lots of anti-Semitism. In a strange turn of events, a Jewish friend of mine told me a story of getting her daughter out of a lease to an illegal basement apartment in Ridgewood, Queens, where the (very non-Jewish) landlord threatened a court case, based on his darker skin color. You can't make this up. Really.
I have heard two such stories from people I trust. Frankly, what kind of country have we become... it is a disgrace.
Didn't Donald Trumps father, the NY property developer and landlord reject black applicants for his apartments? Yup!
⬆️Whataboutism at its finest right here🙄🤦♂️
Not to mention that if true it happened over 60 years ago at least.
I no more care for nor like/support what is being done towards Jews today by the pro-Palestinian movement any more than I do for what wealthy/influential Jews in America and in Israel have been doing for decades to America and it's citizens. In case you don't know what I mean a perfect example is AIPAC. I can only speak to how AIPAC operates within the Republican party but I imagine they do the same for some Democrats. AIPAC is a Jewish Lobbying group consisting of American based Jews who are for all intents and purpose influencing our Congressmen & women to do what Israel wants regardless of how it impacts America or it's citizenry. YES I know they are not the only LOBBYISTS with bad intentions towards US Governance but that doesn't make them any less bad then the other lobbyists groups.
I'm all for Israel being an ally and treating them as such but we do more than just that for Israel. On day one after being sworn in 1 (or more ) AIPAC people "assigned" to you by the heads at AIPAC, appear to let you know how you should act on things that impact Israel directly or indirectly. I'd call that very arrogant. For those who want to defend AIPAC, ask yourself this; if there was a lobbying group in Israel consisting of Israel based American citizens telling Israeli elected persons within the government how to govern based on what benefits America regardless of the costs to Israel would you defend that? And yes I know America interferes this way in other nations but 2 wrongs don't make a right. I have criticism for our own corrupt US Federal government for BOTH parties. The neocons who have used the excuse of spreading Democracy to effectively rape other nations are just as vile and disgusting as the Democrats supporting Muslim terrorists groups.
Last I checked, when the Jewish people were facing genocide it was America along with other nations that sent in and sacrificed it's sons to stop said genocide and yet how is America treated today? Like as if we owe Israel something. America owes no more or less to Israel then any other primary ally like Britain and yet we send unbelievable record amounts of money we don't have to Israel and we do it annually thanks in part to AIPAC. If you say something like this Jewish influencers like Ben Shapiro will quickly tell you Israel doesn't need America to fight it's wars and immediately after go to criticizing any attempts to argue that we pay Israel less money then we have been; pay them the same amount we do with other allies. We have veterans who can't get proper healthcare yet we have to continually borrow money to give to Israel? Yes I know that is NOT the only waste our Federal government engages in but it doesn't change the fact of what it is. Yes they are a valued ally but that doesn't excuse treating them like as if they are the Royalty that America serves.
Because the American mind is short lasting I have to clarify that this is about America and Israel over the last 40+ years and NOT as of the last 4 years. The current Democrat administrations treatment of Israel and Jews in America after October 7th while repugnant is not representative of the relationship between the 2 nations since Israel's inception.
I say "Wealthy & Influential" Jews because it's not the average every day Jewish person (i.e. the majority of the Jewish people ) trying to manipulate the American government; it's the wealthy and influential few that do this. They are the Jewish version of the Globalist Elite who are trying to impose their will on all the world. They hide themselves amongst all Jews so as to shield themselves from criticism. Say anything about what they do or expect from America and BAM your an anti-Semite.
Criticism of Jews and or the nation of Israel raises another good point; anti-Semitism. Why is it that when any other ethnic group on Earth is attacked because of their ethnicity it's racism but that word is not good enough when it's done to Jews? For Jews that requires a special term that sets hatred of them different, above perhaps, of all other groups. I read once where a regular every day Jewish survivor of the holocaust said that the phrase "anti-Semitism" was created specifically to emotionally manipulate the west; if so it has worked wonderfully so far. Until very recent all feared being labeled an anti-Semite. I can just about guarantee someone will call me an anti-Semite for being critical of Israel's/Jews attempt to influence American governance.
When Israel was attack by those evil terrorist on October 7th the reaction from the west should have been more pro-Israel. Part of the failure to do so comes from mass indoctrination of of Millennials and GenZ in America by the pro-collectivist governance, pro-Muslim, persons within our public education system but some of this comes from multiple generations who are simply sick and tired of being treated like as if we owe Israel more than any other ally and or that any critique of anyone Jewish gets one labeled as anti-semitic. It's a shaming language technique. The problem is that just as feminist have over used the term sexism, the term anti-Semite has been so over used it's lost it's sting.
I feel for and pray for the majority of Jews who are are also victims of their own elite class but I have no empathy nor care for those Jews with money, power and influence that use it like a weapon and try to get America to be it's servant.
I just want to say in advance a warm heart thank you for those who DARE risking liking this. As you know it is the wealthy few who manipulate the system including the wealthy & Influential Jews that hide themselves amongst the rest of the Jewish populace for protection. Allies' like @Steve here are dumbfounded as what to do because their "anti-0semite' rebuttal was called out before they had chance to whispered a word.
The real Jewish people recognize what the few have used them for.
I'm not a holocaust denier or Jew hater (aka anti-semite) but, l am an anti-zionist and object to a political regime that hides behind theology while pretending to be democracy with equal rights for everyone.
I'm not too keen on genocide and l don't like being lied to (gas-lit) either. Unfortunately, the USA applaud liars and will give 58 standing ovations to a sociopath.
I can't wait to see which loony-toon is elected as POTUS this November but, l'm guessing it will be the leader of the party with the most "donations" from AIPAC.
🤨So you believe that the Jews are not entitled to a tiny country smaller than New Jersey. Muslims have OVER 40 COUNTRIES! There is NO genocide happening. Words have definitions and if that’s a “genocide” than it’s the only one in which the population of the “victims” QUINTUPLED. You may be the sociopath here. There are a vast amount of Arab/Palestinian Israeli CITIZENS will full rights. They’re on the SUPREME COURT. Can you name a single Muslim country with a single Jewish person on their supreme court? Of course you can’t, because there aren’t any. You should be ashamed of yourself. Stop lying to yourself. You hate the Jews. The double standards are DEAFENING.🤦♂️
MUTED
Nowhere in Shelley's post was there anything said about Jews not being allowed their own nation or hating them. You sound like an Israel apologist, someone who believes the nation (not the individual people) is somehow incapable of anything but acting like an angel. The government of Israel is no more a direct representation of every Jew there and globally as the American government is of every American. Most criticism are at the government of Israel not it's citizens but it's far easier to shut down any argument or criticism of Israel by making it about.... say it with me......"hating Jews"
“ I'm not a holocaust denier or Jew hater (aka anti-semite)” AKA lI’m not racist, but…” Starting one’s argument with that qualifier says it all.
The literal definition of “Anti-Zionist” is someone who doesn’t think that the Jews should have a country and that Israel should not exist. Zionism is just the belief in a Jewish homeland and that would be Israel.
Sorry, believe what you will, the result is the same. Whatever helps you sleep at night. Don’t be a Hamastitute.
2 Letters come to mind. B....S.
Wow 2 whole letters. I guess you were able to resist the anti-Semite: accusation ey? It must burn your insides terribly to be denied that pleasure
Do we have to let them go to these extremes? Are we that powerless?
IF you Don't Show Up, they will. BTW How is On Your School Board?
The school board agenda was to debate the removal of AP classes due to the Equity part of the DEI ideologog. Then the meeting devoled into a debate about Anti-Semitism and Miss Montgomery's attempt at teaching about the conflict in the Middle East.
Let me start with the doctor mom complaining that her child was not being taught about the Holocaust in an American school then later saying her and children are citizens of Israel (just because they follow Judaism). Pick a passport lady.
The "documentary" followed the school board and parents down the rabbit hole, and Peter interviews the films Producer and goes further down the rabbit hole. How fkn ridiculous!
I'll close with a challenge for Peter. Is calling someone an Anti-Semite, better, the same or worse than being called a racist?
MOVE.
PS You don't need to be a specific skin colour to be Jewish but you do need to be white to be an Israeli citizen Just ask the Ethiopeans and Morrocans that are denied Israeli citizenship.
I've confidentially advised on two such cases now, and just when you think things are at peak insanity, something else even more insane comes along. I strongly prefer the term "Jew-hater" to "antisemitic". Many people who hate Jews claim they can't be antisemitic because they are semitic.
What irks me is how "racism" is a sufficient term for all ethnics groups but one. Why is someone who hates blacks a racist and someone how hates whites a racist but someone who hates Jews isn't simply a racists but an "anti-semite"? As for genocide the Jews aren't the only peoples in history to face that so I can see no reason for why one ethnic group needs it's own special terms unless there's a purpose behind that. Question anything about the holocaust and you're not questioning something your a "denier". Where else do we see that kind of term used? It's a word being used as a psychological weapon , a form of shaming.
I also don't like the conflation of Jews as people and Israel as a national government. NO National government is %100 representative of it's people; it doesn't work that way. There have ben debates internally (in Israel) about some of teh methods being used on prisoners of war b/c some feel it's justified while other's don't but you let someone outside of Israel question what's being done and they are an "anti-semite".
The final straw for me was States trying to ban criticism of Israel. If a state government can say you can't bid for state contracts if you criticize Israel. This is a serious violation of the right to free speech as the state is acting on behalf of the people and this should not be using any speech as a means by which to be inclusive or exclusive of any groups. EVERYONE including Jews should be very concerned about any level of government in teh US trying to set conditions about what it does based on anyone speech. Take that approach and say in 10 years or so an increase in the local Muslim population allows those people full control how would you like it if they said any criticism of Islam/Muslims is an automatic dismissal of being able to do any work with the government?
People are not pondering the long term consequences of what they support for they don't see how one day their side may not be in power/control.
Your last sentence is complete bullshit. Lies. Are the Mizrahi Israelis “White”? They’re actually the majority of the Israeli legal citizen population.
I know you deserve a fuller response however, this November it really doesn't matter who you vote for to be POTUS because Netenyahu (or his successor) will be running your country and forcing you into war with Iran.
BTW where is Jamie Raskin lately? As a Jewish Demoncrat you'd think he'd have something to say.
You live in a simplistic Manichaean fantasy. It’s embarrassing.